Interviewed by: Shahanda Abdel Rahim Ali
• Russia is used to Western sanctions that strengthen it and develop its industry
• By kicking us out of the SWIFT financial system, Europe is punishing itself by cutting off our gas supplies
• Ukraine is the gateway to NATO to reach Moscow in less than five minutes
• The United States is not the international community
• The Ukrainian people must take charge of their own destiny
• The 2015 coup was supported by Western powers
• The West condoned the massacres of the nationalists. Did not pay attention to the Russian victims
• Russia granted citizenship to Ukrainians in Luhansk and Donetsk on humanitarian grounds
• Ukrainian forces surrender to our forces
• What the western media broadcasts about the heroism of the Ukrainian army is false
• Russia wants to disarm Ukraine
• To our Egyptian friends: You will understand the Russian position.. It was all done for the sake of security
“I say to our Egyptian friends: You will understand the Russian position. All this was done for the sake of security,” Borisenko said in his interview to Al bawaba News.
He stressed that Europe will pay the price for the sanctions it imposed, and added that NATO is an aggressive group, Russia is used to Western sanctions, and it is always a push forward for Russia, with the exit of “Moscow” from the “Swift” financial system, Europe punishes itself.
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Will Russia withstand attempts to isolate it with political and economic sanctions?
I’m sure of this, Moscow has been living with Western sanctions for a decade. Washington has imposed more than 100 sanctions against Russia.. We are used to sanctions.. Sanctions help us develop our industry more, and imposing sanctions on Russian officials reflects the Western governments’ lack of understanding of the situation in Russia, for example. , Freezing the accounts of Russian officials, like plowing in water, according to Russia’s law: Russian officials are prohibited from having a bank account outside the country, a ridiculous penalty… a penalty that shows their complete ignorance of Russia.
Are there alternatives to Moscow for the Swift system?
Isolate Russia from the “Swift” system is not catastrophic, of course there are problems and challenges that Russian banks and companies will face, but we have our own financial system. We will deal with the situation, but Eastern European countries will suffer during the payment for Russian gas deals, without money there will be no gas, I do not say that We will not be affected, but the gas bill for Western countries will be very high, and many Americans will even lose their jobs, working in exporting to our country, the United States is trying to create an economic crisis for Russia.
How affected is the Russian economy by sanctions?
Sanctions will certainly affect the Russian economy, but the impact will include the global economy as a whole, especially Europe, which will be greatly affected, as there will be no gas for heating or for factory fuel.
Russia is ready to continue supplying gas, happily, but our game and our rules.
Putin threatened Sweden not to join NATO, what does this mean?
Our impression of “NATO” is that it is an aggressive alliance that, since its formation in 1949, has been targeting the Soviet Union, and now their aggression is against Russia now.
Each country has the freedom to choose whether to join the entity or bloc it chooses. Russia deals with all of this with its national security in mind.. We will take what we deem appropriate to preserve our national security, as I have repeatedly emphasized, Ukraine’s accession to NATO will help station American missiles on Russian missiles. Ballistic Washington takes five minutes to reach Moscow.
Estonia is already a member state, but its borders are about 146 kilometers away from St. Petersburg, NATO forces are already there.. That for us is the alliance forces near the outskirts of the city, this is a big threat for Russia.
Is a third world war looming?
I hope this does not happen, and last December, we sent the United States of America two agreements and asked for written guarantees from Washington and its allies, not to expand the borders of the Alliance, and asked not to deploy forces to non-member countries, such as Ukraine. We also asked that they withdraw the forces that joined after 1979.
In 1997, NATO signed an agreement with Russia, and then expanded its borders. Russia did not begin to be hostile to the West, the opposite is true. NATO is an aggressive bloc, not a defensive bloc.
The United States failed to condemn you in the Security Council because of its veto. What about the United Nations General Assembly?
China, India and the UAE opposed the US decision. The UAE represented the Arab voice, and I think this expresses the views of the international community.
The United States should only speak for itself, as it does not represent the international community. The world is much bigger than that, and that is why we hope that our position will be understood by the part that did not represent Washington as an official spokesperson for it. I hope that the West will stop exporting lies.
How do you see Putin’s call to the Ukrainian army to intervene and seize power, do we understand that it is a military coup against an elected authority?
The Ukrainian people will determine their fate. The Nazis and nationalists were in power in Ukraine for years after the 2015 coup, with the support of the West. The first decisions of the coup leaders were to ban the use of the Russian language in Ukraine, the language spoken, felt and felt by most Ukrainians. Russia and Ukraine are one nation. People are being burned alive, 200 children and thousands of women and elderly people have been killed.
A real massacre that was ignored by the international community. Western countries preferred to turn a blind eye, and they were very happy about that. Ukrainian nationalists killed the Russians, and not only that, they killed everyone who spoke Russian, they turned Ukraine into the enemy of Russia, and Washington created a gap between the two countries that were one nation.
Was granting the residents of Luhansk and Donetsk Russian citizenship an incitement to revolt in Ukraine?
Russia did not incite against any state, as I said in 2014, some residents of the Donbass opposed the overthrown nationalists, and that was their self-decision to declare independence, they were the ones who were killed by the nationalists so far, and until yesterday 7 civilians were killed in the Donbas.
The reason for granting the residents of the Donbass Russian citizenship is to break the siege of Kiev and isolate them from the rest of Ukraine. These residents need universities and receive medical treatment. Russia granted them citizenship so that they can do so through services in Russia.
Ukraine has stated that Russian forces target civilians. What is your comment on that?
According to United Nations statistics, 40,000 people have been killed in the Donbass over the past eight years. It is normal for there to be civilian casualties. Unfortunately, neither the United Nations nor the United States will say that most of the civilians who were killed were in the Donbass. Most of the civilian casualties were for Donbass citizens, not among the Ukrainian ranks. Ukrainian forces were directly targeting residential buildings and schools in the Donbass.
Russian forces did not bomb houses, we target military installations and bases. Zelensky also lied when he said: Russia hit Kiev, it was a helicopter collision with a Ukrainian missile, our forces are careful so we are moving slowly to avoid civilian casualties. We don’t want to kill anyone, we aim to help Ukrainians break free from the Nazis who ruled them for years.
You said a week ago that Russia’s primary goal is to protect Chernobyl and the Ukrainian people. Who will bear this crisis?
The Ukrainian president said: his country wants to obtain nuclear weapons, and it is clear to us that Ukraine has the industrial and scientific capacity to obtain nuclear weapons, it can cause radiation and the Chernobyl reactor can be used to obtain the bomb, so we controlled the reactor and there was no clash with the Ukrainian forces We won’t see a lot of Ukrainians wanting to defend the Nazi government.
Your comment on the displacement of more than 80 thousand Ukrainians to the Polish and Romanian borders?
This is their choice, the Russian forces are moving with the utmost caution, avoiding civilian casualties. The Ukrainian president said: The Ukrainian soldiers defended one of the islands to death, salute these brave ones. In fact, his forces surrendered to the Russian army and no fighting broke out.
Do the Russian authorities impose a ban on trading and covering news?
It is not true. The Russian media covers the events and Russian journalists accompany the forces and write their news stories. The Russian media has not prevented or withheld access to information, but rather leading news websites broadcast live coverage.
How will the crisis end .. What are the satisfactory solutions for Russia?
Russia wants to disarm Ukraine and wipe out Nazism, and no Western forces should be stationed on Ukrainian soil. After that, we are ready to talk about Ukraine’s neutral status. The idea of joining NATO should be forgotten so as not to cause any danger to Russia.
Are there other countries besides Ukraine that you have reservations about joining NATO?
Russia asked NATO and the United States for assurances that they would not expand towards the east. In 1999, the member states of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe signed an agreement and the United States joined them. They said in this agreement that security is indivisible and that countries should not strengthen their security at the expense of other countries. The expansion of NATO to the east is based on Russia’s expense, and this is unacceptable.
Why does Russia refuse to describe the operations in Ukraine as an invasion?
We are not going to change Ukraine’s independence, we just want to protect our security and then the Russian forces leave, we don’t seek to annex Ukraine and it’s ultimately up to its citizens to decide their fate.
America supports the Nazis in Ukraine and this is ironic. Every year the United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution prohibiting the glorification of Nazism, only two countries that vote against the resolution are Ukraine and the United States. Do they like to pay tribute to Nazism is very strange.
There are countries that help Ukraine militarily.. your comment?
Those countries want the conflicts to continue, by sending weapons they encourage “Kiev” to continue the war against the Russians. President Putin stated: There will be serious consequences for any country’s intervention.
Will Russia close Ukraine’s borders to prevent the arrival of military or humanitarian aid?
It is difficult to close the Ukrainian-European border, but we will face the flow of NATO weapons.
In the end, I would like to make it clear to our Egyptian friends that all this is done for the sake of Russian security. The Egyptians must understand this. We have good relations with the Egyptian government and people, and we hope Egypt will support us and our position.